/int/ - International

I would have to read the essay before I could make a judgement.

From twitter: >For a psychology course at the University Oklahoma, Samantha Fulnecky was asked to write a 650-word essay reacting to an article about how people are perceived based on societal expectations of gender. >In her essay, Fulnecky argued that traditional gender roles should not be considered stereotypes. She cited the Bible to support her stance that eliminating gender in society would be "detrimental" because that would put people "farther from God's original plan for humans." >She received zero points out of 25 on the essay. Transgender professor, Mel Curtis, said Ms. Fulnecky, failed to use empirical evidence/and called parts of her essay offensive. I'll let you guess, Bernd, is this in support of the Christian woman who thinks her beliefs belong in a scientific essay or does this criticise the woman? It's from the organisation that blew this up in support of the religious fanatic. All that sounds quite fucked up to me. Religious freedom does not mean that your beliefs can be treated as facts. They are beliefs. Religious freedom means they can pray on a Sunday and they can't get a worse grade for the same essay just because they have these beliefs. It doesn't mean they can write that the earth is 6000 years old in geology class or that god made all the animals s they exist today on the topic of evolution. Some quotes from the essay: >eliminating gender in our society would be detrimental, as it pulls us farther from God's original plan for humans. >Women naturally want to do womanly things because God created us with those womanly desires in our hearts. The same goes for men. >The reason so many girls want to feel womanly and care for others in a motherly way is not because they feel pressured to fit into social norms. It is because God created and chose them to reflect His beauty and His compassion in that way. >Society pushing the lie that there are multiple genders and everyone should be whatever they want to be is demonic and severely harms American youth. The US are cooked.

>>28061 Religiousness is on the rise all around, even here in Ösistan. And that isn't just the regular increase in shitty Islamism, but now thanks to economically harder times our native yokels flock towards Catholicism like the fucking sheep they are. This surely will fill their pockets, sects all around the globe are known for that, right? So glad that I just have a few more years left here.

>>28062 Imagine the outrage of those Christian nationalists if a student paper on a scientific paper argued on the basis "well, allah said ... and the prophet Mohammed claimed". >We at Turning Point USA believe that a failing grade on that radical Islamist paper is not enough. The student clearly showed that he is not fit for an academic education and should be expelled.

>>28063 >Imagine No, one of the reason why I soon want to move far away is that I don't have to meddle with this bs anymore, instead light some incense and pray to Buddha like the fucking sheep I am when it serves my own agenda.

>>28061 quoting the bible is empirical evidence, assuming you believe in christanity and god. the tranny replied citing 'every major american psychological association' as proof 'gender and sex is not binary' which is tantamount to what the women did citing an authority that you would have to see as legitimate though i guess quoting tranny suicide rates and dropping female mental health would be more in depth

>>28072 It's not funny to larp as an idiot anymore. We used to larp as flat earthers and shit, but imagine a teacher getting suspended for grading a flat earth paper accordingly.

>>28074 shes using it as a socio-cultural source. like you could say every major religion has similar views on gender, homosexuality, family. or a rtheroical appeal for an opinion piece also you would just talk to that person in question like people do at real jobs, and not abuse your position to be an asshole to children and teens by giving them a zero and telling them god is bullshit

If your arguments against troons comes from religion then you're a dimwitted retard. There's plenty of factual low hanging fruit to pick from, no magic sky daddy necessary.

>>28075 >like you could say every major religion has similar views She could have said that. That would have been okay. But she stated as a fact that god did something.

>>28075 Hinduism and Buddhism don't really, just the Abrahamistic retards, while they kill each other about petty details. And all show pretty obvious signs to just be another tool for control and reduced freedom over the masses, while those preaching the loudest live in sin, by their own definition.

>>28074 To think that I memed for Diaper Don anno 2016 myself sickens me. At least I learned a valuable lesson.

>>28083 Addendum: also she should have made the connection between the cultures in the Bronze Age Levant to modern America if her task was to write about modern America. Imagine writing a paper on chemistry and saying "it doesn't exist because Bronze Age China proved that there are only five elements"

>>28086 I shall die on the hill of defending the 4 basic ingredients of alchemy.

>>28084 hinduism is not an organized religion with tenets, thats just a word used to group pagans of india together. buddhism does in fact say women are sub servient to men and different in nature.

Heh, Christlet got owned good.

>>28087 Fuck you for discriminating me based on my religion. Saying air is an element and wood isn't should be punishable by death.

Arguing about elements is silly really, Scientific elements and historic elements aren't the same.

>>28094 Pff air, water... I was talking about the true 4 principles of alchemy, Albedo, Rubedo, Nigredo and the ever ignored Citrinitas. Check my sandboxing, it's always black, red and white, with faint hints of yellow :3

Oklahoma is the most religious conservative state apart from Utah. I am sure a significant portion of the bachelor's level students hold similar views as her. The TA is correct that it doesn't take a scientific approach to gender, but it does make an argument and uses a source (the Bible). I don't agree with the TA either, they start off saying that they are not taking off points because of the argument then gives the paper a 0 and heavily criticized the argument. The student also filed a religious discrimination complaint and had the TA suspended... I don't know, it seems both the TA and student need some training on what is expected of them...

I find it very irritating this zoomer habit of arguing only with science, and they always think their opinions are scientific, when in fact they don't even manage to be logical for starters. Troon discourse is very much like this. They genuinely think they're making a good argument when they say: >but people are born with X sexual defect, therefore sex is a spectrum I remember reading an article decades ago where a murkoid professor commented that murkoid kids were unlearning to see anything but science as an authority. And I think this is what is going on here. They don't know how to use any other kind of reasoning. School system taught them only this, but also taught them that anything else is bullshit and must be questioned. The schools teach skeptic thinking and critical thinking, and these two thinkings tell you to question everything else. So you end up with these kids who either see everything as debate over facts or debate over identity. Meanwhile they fail basic logic reasoning taught from greek philosophy.